ATENCIÓN NUEVO FORO

[Hutch]

Gil

“Do not offend Hutch, offend not.”

I am not I am pointing out facts.

“Always his comments about the events of the military conflict of the 82 are antojadizos and partisan, without any type of fundamentación.”

Wrong. I actually know what I am talking about and do research, unlike most Argentines who just seem to believe what they are told to believe. That is why I have been able to show various Argentine claims as lies when Argentines have utterly failed to do so.

“…assumed the role of moderating referee of the truth…”

Unlike most, if not nearly all, Argentines here I actually understand basic and universal educational concepts such as bias, lies, context, research, evidence, proof, facts and references. If Argentines knew about and applied these themselves then much of what I write would be unnecessary.

I can not understand what you mean in your ‘facts’ speech. It appears to be mere semantics.

“…of be not able to understand what him he is said, or in his defect did not want to understand it.”

I agree that many Argentines do not understand what they are told when it conflicts with what they have been told to believe and that many run and hide from reality. Argentines do seem to love conspiracy theories.
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Be pleased to inform Her Majesty that the White Ensign flies alongside the Union Jack in South Georgia. God save the Queen.

[David Barrow]

[Gil Gerald]

Hutch, aca nadie es amante de ninguna teoría conspirativa. Si Ud., se refiere a la teoría elaborada por Cristian G sobre el hundimiento del HSM Invencible, es solamente una teoría con un fuerte fundamente fáctico. Si Ud., cree que es una teoría conspirativa, lo único que tiene que hacer simplemente de refutarla. Pero veo que ningun forista extranjero la refutó como debe refutarse una teoría.-
En lo que respecta a las teoría conspirativa, en ese sentido, Gran Bretaña e Estados Unidos de Norteamérica son amantes de teorías conspirativas. Con ese artilugio nefasto, estan masacrando una nación y sobre todo rapiñándola como aves negras del único recurso que posee.-
No Hutch, las teorías conspirativas y las mentiras de arsenales nucleares, platos voladores, y de monstruos gigantes estan en la imaginación de Bush y de su anterior primer ministro.-
Nos vemos




"Quien vive temeroso, nunca será libre" (Quinto Horacio Flaco)

[Colorado del monte]

David, tomo a consideracion ese punto de las ordenes de Oslow y la lista que mostro Hutch, en la cual se comprueba que por lo menos parte de la poblacion malvinense no fue removida, seria mejor poder completar la lista de los pobladores y verificar la conformacion etnografica entre otros datos, creo que deben estar por aparecer documentos clasificados sobre la lista de los embarcados hacia el continente.

Con esto no quitaria que la gobernacion y militares de las islas fueron desplazados por la fuerza intimidatoria de la retorica orden de Oslow y del cambio de pabellones, habria una simetria historica con la recuperacion de las islas por parte de Argentina en 1982, al retirar solamente al gobernador colonial y a los militares britanicos no a la poblacion que es constitucionalmente argentina y devolver el gesto a la Lexington en 1831, de dejarlos en el Puerto de Montevideo para que sean re-embarcados a Londres.

[Hutch]

Gil

“Hutch, aca nobody is a lover of any conspiratory theory.”

Incorrect. As we have seen many times here, many Argentines seem to love conspiracy theories and love to make claims which they can not back up.

“If you, he refers to the theory elaborated by Cristian G on the sinking of the HSM Invincible, is only a theory with a strong one fundamente factual.”

That is one conspiracy that some believe. And it is not based on a foundation of facts – just ignorance, guesswork, lies, propaganda, hope, prejudice and co incidence. No intelligent open minded person would believe it.

“If you, believes that is a conspiratory theory, the unique thing that has to do simply to refute it.”

Please pay attention Gil so you do not appear uninformed or foolish. I, along with others, have done this. But some people live in delusional fantasy worlds.

“But I see that ningun forista foreign refuted it as should be refuted a theory.- “

Again, please pay attention, it has been done.

“…Great Britain and United States of North America are lovers of conspiratory theories.”

What do you mean by this? The people?

“With that harmful device, they are massacring a nation and above all stealing it as black birds of the only resource that possesses.-“

Yawn. Blah, blah, blah.

Colorado

So do you finally admit that the civilian colonists of the FI were not forced to leave by the UK in 1833? Do you accept that you have been told lies for so many years by governments and the media? And they have made you look foolish as you repeated this crude propaganda without bothering to see if it was true?

The UK’s action in 1833 was non violent. Argentina used massive and overwhelming military force and plenty of violence in 1982.

The population of the FI is not Argentine and do not want to be.

“Nevertheless, Argentina has not permitted that Great Britain perfect…”

That does not really matter. UK sovereignty and control of the FI has been de facto accepted by the international community – including Argentina – for a very long time
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Be pleased to inform Her Majesty that the White Ensign flies alongside the Union Jack in South Georgia. God save the Queen.

[Gil Gerald]

Hutch, Ud, sabe bien cual es la teoría conspirativa que embarcó a su país y a los Estados Unidos de Norteamérica a invadir y a rapiñar a un pobre país como es Irak.-
Ahora solo en ese país quedan despojos, miseria y muerte. Y lo más cínico aún, según su torpe argumentación, que la culpa que lo que les pasa a los iraquíes es que sus dos facciones religiosas se matan una a otra.
Cinismo puro de la mejor rancia de la flema inglesa. En fin, veo que no quiere entablar un debate serio, coherente y lógico y se escuda en la pobre escaramuza dialéctica de tomar fuera de contexto lo que el suscribe y reconvenirlo a su manera.-
No importa Hutch, yo siempre estoy aquí para debatir enjundiosamente toda la argumentación pueril y absurda que ud dice ser verdadera.-
Por último, Hutch, por lo menos una vez refuta lo que dice el estimado forista y amigo Cristian G y no bravuquee. Es fácil, tiene que esforzarse.-
Nos vemos.-



"Quien vive temeroso, nunca será libre" (Quinto Horacio Flaco)